Well, were do I start?
This post might be a bit disjointed as I am knackered.
Our second child isn't too well so sleep has been scarce these last few days.
I even noticed a bit of OCD creeping in!!!
I keep checking that bets are placed, what's that about?! Probably just tired.
No real complaints.
The portfolio in the main delivered.
The 2nd best week since I started the project but it did reiterate the problem of predicting earnings.
Here we go.
Market Examiner
Staked 6 points, results -6 points.
50/50 lay service
@ 10% liability + 28% ROC
I am sort of getting used to this, is this the norm?
Sportyy
No Tennis, but a very small profit on football.
Winning Racing Tips (E/W service)
+ 0.6 points
Winning Racing Systems
The first week in what seems a long time that a profit has been achieved (4 points)
CD Systems Probet
Suffering from 2nd placeitus.
-5 pts (5 pts staked).
CD Systems Bargain.
A quite simply amazing
6 pts staked.
+20 points.
Best performer of the week.
Zero Hype Banker
almost + 2.5 points from 2 points staked.
A long way required though to recover bank.
Summer of Football
........... at last a small profit of 0.72 points
Polish
-2 pts from 2 pts staked.
Hybrid Probandit
Call it flat.
Going forward I just need a bit of consistency. The recent Football drama nd poor weather effecting the racing simply is not helping:-)
I'll aim to add more posts as the week progresses.
It's just been hard this week with the lack of sleep!
Monday, 26 November 2012
Monday, 19 November 2012
The Weeks results & Thoughts (12-18th Nov)
Well, the first week is over using the drastically reduced portfolio that is aligned with my actual bank :-)
By the middle of the week I thought I would have to start an Avon or Betterwear round.
Positives
Negatives/ areas for improvement
By the middle of the week I thought I would have to start an Avon or Betterwear round.
Positives
- Far more enjoyable as I had little to no stress.
- A half reasonable income at the end of the week.
- Lots of free time (although that did not escape notice of my wife, so I was soon put to use).
Negatives/ areas for improvement
- It's obvious that the split of the bank between the portfolio is not balanced correctly, but as of now it's not too damaging. I'll explain in greater detail when I go through each service.
The following weekly review by service is in no particular order.
Without further ado...... (drum roll)
The Market Examiner
No bets on 3 days but still pulled 14.5 points out of the bag.
50/50 Service
Working to liability on a 10% of bank, profit of 1.46 points (nearly 15% ROC) & 33% ROC in 2 weeks
Sportyy
Sportyy I miss you:-(
Only 2 tennis bets and a few footy picks for a small profit.
It's the end of the tennis season.
Paul Ruffy's Winning Racing Tips
Consistently delivers the bacon.
30 point bank.
just under 2 points for the week.
just over four for the last two weeks
Since the 24/09 ROC of 31%
Paul Ruffy's Winning Systems
Not good, my original combined starting bank of £2350 is now down to £1338 (started at the end of Sept).
Although to be fair to Paul, I did calculate the point bank at the lowest end, but however you look at it, ouch.
Anyway, I look at the past results + what i think of Paul and I am continuing BUT I am halving my stakes. My goal now is to break even, if and when that happens I will review individually each of the 3 repeater systems (Favorites, NH and 2yo).
CD Systems Probet
+ 1 point (20 point bank)
CD Systems Bargain
a little over 10 points (50 point bank)
Both CD systems products are very consistent.
Zero Hype Banker
1/2 point but 5.5 points required to get the bank back to level.
On the Oche
Just shy of a 3 point loss (from a 25 point bank).
I signed up for 6 months and will ride it out and see what happens.
Summer of football.
Well, it is raining:-(
another
5 losing from 6 selections
- 4 points (20 point bank)
I am continuing. when you have odds near to evens you have a 50/50 chance of a losing sequence/ run of 9, and a 25% chance of a losing run of 11. I see nothing wrong with the selections, James had an amazing run and was simply due a correction, I just wish we could have small corrections instead of this almightly punch in the face! (I am talking of the last few weeks).
Polish Football (via SBC forum)
call it break even.
Probandit.
17 points (15 point bank)
Consistently profitable.
That is it for now. I am full of a cold and I am going to put my head down for an hour.
As we say up north, I feel as rough as a bears behind.
Overall, I covered my bills this week.
I feel that I should be more exuberant, probably the cold.
Friday, 16 November 2012
Trying to calculate earnings
As I stated from the beginning I need this to pay most, if not all my bills.
To gain some measure of reassurance I have been looking at ways to estimate over a year how much I can expect as a return.
As very quick calculation.
I roughly calculated by service the value of stakes per week/ month/ year.
Then I took the yearly ROI
I times one with the other.
This provides a rough total of the yearly return by service.
I took 60% of this as I doubt I will get the same results.
I just about have enough.
I roughly need 10% ROI (funny how most calculations end up at 10%) on the current bank to make this work.
NOW, I look over at The Portfolio Investor for a bit of inspiration. I think I'll drop Rowan a quick email and ask what he's manged to pull off in terms of ROI:)
To gain some measure of reassurance I have been looking at ways to estimate over a year how much I can expect as a return.
As very quick calculation.
I roughly calculated by service the value of stakes per week/ month/ year.
Then I took the yearly ROI
I times one with the other.
This provides a rough total of the yearly return by service.
I took 60% of this as I doubt I will get the same results.
I just about have enough.
I roughly need 10% ROI (funny how most calculations end up at 10%) on the current bank to make this work.
NOW, I look over at The Portfolio Investor for a bit of inspiration. I think I'll drop Rowan a quick email and ask what he's manged to pull off in terms of ROI:)
The Week So Far
To be frank it's a bit slow, but thankfully stress free, albeit sideways.
The results so far this week.
The Market Examiner
One of the main successes, from 3 betting days + 15.5 points.
50/50 lays (10% of bank liability)
Bank down 4.4%
Sportyy
No bets as you can guess with the tennis season drawing to a close I imagine we'll just be using the football bets at the weekend.
I am really missing this one. It's my most profitable service.
Winning Racing Tips
down 0.34 points.
Winning Racing Systems
The slide continues, since I started on the 28/09 that bank is down 36%. BUT, the past is excellent, and it's a very small time frame. Add this to the great success of WRT and that fact that Paul Ruffy is a top chap. I'm simply going to maintain this one. Come on Paul:-) !!
CD Probet
down, 1.75 points.
But =23% ROC since 24/09. You can hardly complain.
CD Bargain
+ 11.5 points
12% ROC since 24/09
ZH Hype banker
Call it flat
-29% ROC since 24/09
But another one with a proven track record.
On The Oche
Down 1.3 points.
Summer of Football
No bets
Probandit
+ 8.5 points
What does all this tell you.
Well, and this is what I am learning.
VERY LITTLE
Until we have a few months info, you cannot draw any conclusion.
What does surprise me more is that on some services, if not all, you need to take a view on several years results.
This is why I am pleased to have what I consider a diversified portfolio.
The results so far this week.
The Market Examiner
One of the main successes, from 3 betting days + 15.5 points.
50/50 lays (10% of bank liability)
Bank down 4.4%
Sportyy
No bets as you can guess with the tennis season drawing to a close I imagine we'll just be using the football bets at the weekend.
I am really missing this one. It's my most profitable service.
Winning Racing Tips
down 0.34 points.
Winning Racing Systems
The slide continues, since I started on the 28/09 that bank is down 36%. BUT, the past is excellent, and it's a very small time frame. Add this to the great success of WRT and that fact that Paul Ruffy is a top chap. I'm simply going to maintain this one. Come on Paul:-) !!
CD Probet
down, 1.75 points.
But =23% ROC since 24/09. You can hardly complain.
CD Bargain
+ 11.5 points
12% ROC since 24/09
ZH Hype banker
Call it flat
-29% ROC since 24/09
But another one with a proven track record.
On The Oche
Down 1.3 points.
Summer of Football
No bets
Probandit
+ 8.5 points
What does all this tell you.
Well, and this is what I am learning.
VERY LITTLE
Until we have a few months info, you cannot draw any conclusion.
What does surprise me more is that on some services, if not all, you need to take a view on several years results.
This is why I am pleased to have what I consider a diversified portfolio.
Thursday, 15 November 2012
Sequences, and the wisest words
Below is a quote from Steve Jones at CD Systems
Once you have been at it for a few years you will realise the insignificance and irrelevance of short-term performance (by short-term I mean up to and including a month). That's because individual bets don't affect each other in any way - they are all completely independent of each other, so a short string of results can be good, bad even with the same quality of bets. Try spinning a coin several hundred times (it's worth it just to realise) and record results. 50/50 chance every spin but the sequences will vary wildly, there's a 50/50 chance of hitting a losing (or winning) sequence of 9 whilst spinning the coin. Those sequences will be replicated with your even money bets, so imagine how they are exaggerated with bets at higher prices. That's why short-term results are totally irrelevant in the scheme of things. If the scheme of things is right then the long-term results will be too.
http://www.cdsystems.uk.com/index.htm
Back to me, I cannot let Steve get all the wise words in.
Once I understood sequences, it became the foundation/ under pinned the daily emotional strain.
It simply and rationally places the days trade in to context.
Once you have been at it for a few years you will realise the insignificance and irrelevance of short-term performance (by short-term I mean up to and including a month). That's because individual bets don't affect each other in any way - they are all completely independent of each other, so a short string of results can be good, bad even with the same quality of bets. Try spinning a coin several hundred times (it's worth it just to realise) and record results. 50/50 chance every spin but the sequences will vary wildly, there's a 50/50 chance of hitting a losing (or winning) sequence of 9 whilst spinning the coin. Those sequences will be replicated with your even money bets, so imagine how they are exaggerated with bets at higher prices. That's why short-term results are totally irrelevant in the scheme of things. If the scheme of things is right then the long-term results will be too.
http://www.cdsystems.uk.com/index.htm
Back to me, I cannot let Steve get all the wise words in.
Once I understood sequences, it became the foundation/ under pinned the daily emotional strain.
It simply and rationally places the days trade in to context.
Resistance is Futile
As my portfolio is rather reduced and some bets are advised the previous day (easily placed on the Iphone while watching a MasterChef) I did have a bit too much time yesterday and even went back on the SBC Tipster report to look at any low cost services. Then I stopped, what am I an addict?!
My bank is fully allocated.
From Monday-Wed I have earned just over £80, you can win that at Bingo!
Anyway, slow and steady and I'll review on Monday once I have added up the weekly results.
I did achieve something yesterday and saved the annual £75 charge.
I cleaned out my own gutters.
There, if I add the £80 to the £75 saved that is £155:-)
If it was possible I'd probably just tot the results up once a week as doing them every day has no real benefit. It is better to look at results on the biggest time frame possible. I might start doing them every 4 & 3 days as a compromise (Monday and a Thursday) so the task to enter them into my spreadsheet stays manageable.
All the best for now.
My bank is fully allocated.
From Monday-Wed I have earned just over £80, you can win that at Bingo!
Anyway, slow and steady and I'll review on Monday once I have added up the weekly results.
I did achieve something yesterday and saved the annual £75 charge.
I cleaned out my own gutters.
There, if I add the £80 to the £75 saved that is £155:-)
If it was possible I'd probably just tot the results up once a week as doing them every day has no real benefit. It is better to look at results on the biggest time frame possible. I might start doing them every 4 & 3 days as a compromise (Monday and a Thursday) so the task to enter them into my spreadsheet stays manageable.
All the best for now.
Wednesday, 14 November 2012
Listening to the masses
Well, this entry is a hard one to write and after all the years (well, not that long, 3 years) I thought I had a good grounding in betting.
I am lucky to have found the Secret Betting Club and post this blog there for comments and expected worship, and grand accolades.
I didn't get any of those but a few carefully worded comments from some big names (in the forum world) saying that I was basically insane because I was many times leveraged.
They were all wrong in my eyes, I am pro gambler (for 8 weeks, I know it all, dam you), then I lost £2k over the weekend. Very luckily it was bookies money, but that is actually irrelevant I still lost £2k. But on the flip side if I was not so leveraged I probably would not have won the £2k.
However, emotionally I simply cannot take that sort of swing.
I spent most of Monday night and Tuesday actually calculating for 'real' what my bank is (money you can live with losing). Although, even now I'd be lying if I said i'd not be pulling my hair out if I did.
Then;
I split that bank by how many services I have.
Too many
as the cost of some services removes the viability to run with a <£5k bank/ service.
I am lucky to have found the Secret Betting Club and post this blog there for comments and expected worship, and grand accolades.
I didn't get any of those but a few carefully worded comments from some big names (in the forum world) saying that I was basically insane because I was many times leveraged.
They were all wrong in my eyes, I am pro gambler (for 8 weeks, I know it all, dam you), then I lost £2k over the weekend. Very luckily it was bookies money, but that is actually irrelevant I still lost £2k. But on the flip side if I was not so leveraged I probably would not have won the £2k.
However, emotionally I simply cannot take that sort of swing.
I spent most of Monday night and Tuesday actually calculating for 'real' what my bank is (money you can live with losing). Although, even now I'd be lying if I said i'd not be pulling my hair out if I did.
Then;
I split that bank by how many services I have.
Too many
as the cost of some services removes the viability to run with a <£5k bank/ service.
- I removed any services that cost more than £35/month
- I favored services that I can run with a small bank (those charging circa. £20/month with a decent ROC).
- I emailed those that were left and offered a bank transfer payment (no paypal fees) for a 12 month subscription (only UK based ones) trying to get the lowest possible rate to further lower the necessary bank.
I was left with, and will continue with.
- The Market Examiner
- 50/50
- Sportyy
- WRT
- WRS
- CD Systems (Bargain & Probet)
- ZH Banker
- Summer of football
- Probandit
- On The Oche
Banks range from £1000-£2500
I am now leveraged (as i could not totally escape it) by 1.35
In addition to this. I am using an ISA pot solely as a saving plan with Equine Investments. Not for a monthly income but as a saving plan. It gets 2.2% in the bank, so as long as Lawrence can beat that + fees I'll be happy.
It will not generate enough monthly income unless I am very fortunate but this project is now long term viable.
It also frees up a mass of time and stress.
I'll see how the returns develop but my plan is to take a part time afternoon/ evening job if required. I'll make that decision in Feb/ March'13.
You see I do listen, but it takes a bit of time.
Comments/ words of wisdom/ part time highly paid jobs offers, all appreciated:-)
Monday, 12 November 2012
Results 5th to the 11th November
These are in no particular order, just how I find them on my spreadsheet.
All results are
DATE P&L FOR THE DAY B/F.
50/50 SERVICE
This is a service run by a chap I came across by luck. Run by Paul Fowlie.
I use a 10% liability of bank ratchet system.
What i like is that selections are sent out at 6-6.30 am, so I can lay the selection at BSP 1st thing and forget.
For those who work 9-5 it's an great feature. If I do go back to traditional employment in 2013 I'll maintain this service for that very reason.
No complaints for the week:-)
£1000 BANK
SLOW HORSE, by the same author. 2 selections (slow period for the service but a great return for the two selections).
£1000 BANK
PROBALL CLUB BETTING SERVICE
http://proballclub.co.uk/
I know a lot are interested in this. I made a small mistake, well if I am honest, I was simply stupid, I knew what I was doing. I basically added 5 services (2 x Football, golf, horses, & tennis) without increasing my bank. As I only started to formally record results this week it will skew my results were this is not included.
In short, my portfolio is now fixed for 6 months, how can I learn anything if I am not consistent.
Anyway, to the service!!!
GOLF
£2500 BANK
using £25 EW and £50 back on 2/3 balls
TENNIS
£2500 BANK
£100 back bets
FOOTBALL DOUBLE CHANCE
£2500 BANK
£50 back bets
HORSE LAYS
£1000 BANK
10% liability
FOOTBALL LAYS
£5000 BANK (£300 LIABILITY)
A grim week in isolation for me, but one week is nothing and the published results (that show the bad times as well as the good times) are solid.
SPORTYY
My dear Sportyy service,
my best performing service
£5000 BANK
Stakes are a % of bank as advised by Sportyy.
just keeps delivering.
TENNIS DESIRE
£2500 BANK
quiet as you would expect
£100 back bets
WINNING RACING TIPS
£3000 BANK
Another one that just keeps delivering.
stakes are advised by Paul.
WINNING RACING SYSTEM
£2350 BANK
FAV'S @ £20 pints x £50
NH @ 50 points x £15
2 yo @ £60 points
Paul's sister service (however, they have little to nothing in common).
I remain hopeful based on past results.
If, and this is the same for any service my bank hits 50% for that service I will 1/2 the stakes until the bank doubles back to the original.
One system wiped out the other.
CD SYSTEMS PROBET
1500 BANK
£75 STAKES
I have far longer exposure on this system. Please look at the website for the bigger results picture. It's as good as it gets. Weekly reporting can distort*.
*I'll also do a monthly report on the bog
CD SYSTEMS FREE SERVICES
FOOTBALL £1200 BANK
£100 BACK BETS
NH £375 BANK
£15 STAKES
STABLE INSIDER
£750 BANK & £30 STAKES
CD SYSTEMS BARGAIN
This is another of my favorite services
£1500 BANK, £30 STAKES
ZERO HYPE BANKER
£1000 BANK
£50 WIN BACK BETS
It's a long term system but this week, like the one's you can see above added to the pain:-(
ON THE OCHE
£5000 bank
stakes as recommended.
I am finding the service as of late frustrating, but it is in profit!! Long term results are very good. Funny, I also think it's great when the value approach goes our way:-)
SUMMER OF FOOTBALL
£3000 BANK
£150 STAKES
SOF after what can only be described as a fantastic run is struggling at the moment (last week really hurt, this week just hurts). For some reason I do not worry about this service. I do think it will pull back.
IBETVALUE
£5000 BANK
5% OF BAL LIABILITY
Not good, this is three losing bets on a lay service on the bounce.
BUT to put it into context, follows 29 winning ones! Just wasn't a member then:-(
AHC TIPSTER
£5000 BANK
STAKES AS ADVISED (% OF FIXED BANK)
The Football curse continues
at on average £50 a bet you can see the strike rate!
The service is not cheap at £80 a month but once you join you do not pay another subscription util you are £300 in -profit (based on a £10k bank). However, over on Sports Tipster you can see that this service has a long term good return.
SCOTTISH FOOTBALL BETS
£3500 BANK, £100 POINT
stakes as advised.
Football curse continues
PROBANDIT
£1500 BANK
£10 POINT
Now, I was tempted not to include this one (and the last one)
POLISH BETS
Bets from the SBC forum
This lad is either very very good, or it is beginners luck:-)
£1250 BANK,
£50 bets
My bank and returns
Overall, for the week.
A net loss of £1645
£590 -profit for 49 days betting.
I can mange until the end of the year but I do need to see a good recovery if I am to make a living from it.
Comments
Not really a true reflection with the addition of Proball Betting Club in the last week
let us see what the rest of the month brings.
Hopefully this is a low point and it can only get better.
All results are
DATE P&L FOR THE DAY B/F.
50/50 SERVICE
This is a service run by a chap I came across by luck. Run by Paul Fowlie.
I use a 10% liability of bank ratchet system.
What i like is that selections are sent out at 6-6.30 am, so I can lay the selection at BSP 1st thing and forget.
For those who work 9-5 it's an great feature. If I do go back to traditional employment in 2013 I'll maintain this service for that very reason.
No complaints for the week:-)
£1000 BANK
05/11/2012 | £27.22 | £1,027.22 |
06/11/2012 | £76.63 | £1,103.85 |
07/11/2012 | £17.60 | £1,121.45 |
08/11/2012 | £8.35 | £1,129.80 |
09/11/2012 | £115.93 | £1,245.73 |
10/11/2012 | -£83.89 | £1,161.84 |
11/11/2012 | £23.27 | £1,185.11 |
SLOW HORSE, by the same author. 2 selections (slow period for the service but a great return for the two selections).
£1000 BANK
05/11/2012 | £0.00 | £1,000.00 |
06/11/2012 | £0.00 | £1,000.00 |
07/11/2012 | £0.00 | £1,000.00 |
08/11/2012 | £91.00 | £1,091.00 |
09/11/2012 | £0.00 | £1,091.00 |
10/11/2012 | £0.00 | £1,091.00 |
11/11/2012 | £0.00 | £1,091.00 |
PROBALL CLUB BETTING SERVICE
http://proballclub.co.uk/
I know a lot are interested in this. I made a small mistake, well if I am honest, I was simply stupid, I knew what I was doing. I basically added 5 services (2 x Football, golf, horses, & tennis) without increasing my bank. As I only started to formally record results this week it will skew my results were this is not included.
In short, my portfolio is now fixed for 6 months, how can I learn anything if I am not consistent.
Anyway, to the service!!!
GOLF
£2500 BANK
05/11/2012 | £0.00 | £2,762.50 |
06/11/2012 | £0.00 | £2,762.50 |
07/11/2012 | £153.12 | £2,915.62 |
08/11/2012 | £0.00 | £2,915.62 |
09/11/2012 | -£80.00 | £2,835.62 |
10/11/2012 | £5.00 | £2,840.62 |
11/11/2012 | -£265.50 | £2,575.12 |
using £25 EW and £50 back on 2/3 balls
TENNIS
£2500 BANK
05/11/2012 | £0.00 | £2,641.24 |
06/11/2012 | -£100.00 | £2,541.24 |
07/11/2012 | £0.00 | £2,541.24 |
08/11/2012 | £0.00 | £2,541.24 |
09/11/2012 | £45.47 | £2,586.71 |
10/11/2012 | -£100.00 | £2,486.71 |
11/11/2012 | £0.00 | £2,486.71 |
£100 back bets
FOOTBALL DOUBLE CHANCE
£2500 BANK
05/11/2012 | £0.00 | £2,300.00 |
06/11/2012 | £25.00 | £2,325.00 |
07/11/2012 | £0.00 | £2,325.00 |
08/11/2012 | £116.80 | £2,441.80 |
09/11/2012 | £0.00 | £2,441.80 |
10/11/2012 | £95.07 | £2,536.87 |
11/11/2012 | -£73.50 | £2,463.37 |
£50 back bets
HORSE LAYS
£1000 BANK
05/11/2012 | £28.15 | £1,028.15 |
06/11/2012 | £23.67 | £1,051.82 |
07/11/2012 | £0.00 | £1,051.82 |
08/11/2012 | £90.92 | £1,142.74 |
09/11/2012 | -£112.66 | £1,030.08 |
10/11/2012 | -£112.23 | £917.85 |
10% liability
FOOTBALL LAYS
£5000 BANK (£300 LIABILITY)
05/11/2012 | £0.00 | £4,745.51 |
06/11/2012 | £0.00 | £4,745.51 |
07/11/2012 | £0.00 | £4,745.51 |
08/11/2012 | -£140.00 | £4,605.51 |
09/11/2012 | £0.00 | £4,605.51 |
10/11/2012 | -£109.47 | £4,496.04 |
11/11/2012 | -£599.82 | £3,896.22 |
A grim week in isolation for me, but one week is nothing and the published results (that show the bad times as well as the good times) are solid.
SPORTYY
My dear Sportyy service,
my best performing service
£5000 BANK
05/11/2012 | £96.22 | £5,179.52 |
06/11/2012 | -£127.00 | £5,052.52 |
07/11/2012 | £0.00 | £5,052.52 |
08/11/2012 | £0.00 | £5,052.52 |
09/11/2012 | £0.00 | £5,052.52 |
10/11/2012 | £107.50 | £5,160.02 |
11/11/2012 | £117.27 | £5,277.29 |
Stakes are a % of bank as advised by Sportyy.
just keeps delivering.
TENNIS DESIRE
£2500 BANK
quiet as you would expect
05/11/2012 | £0.00 | £2,526.72 |
06/11/2012 | £16.80 | £2,543.52 |
07/11/2012 | £0.00 | £2,543.52 |
08/11/2012 | £0.00 | £2,543.52 |
09/11/2012 | £0.00 | £2,543.52 |
10/11/2012 | £1.00 | £2,544.52 |
11/11/2012 | £2.00 | £2,546.52 |
£100 back bets
WINNING RACING TIPS
£3000 BANK
Another one that just keeps delivering.
stakes are advised by Paul.
05/11/2012 | £0.00 | £3,512.03 |
06/11/2012 | £0.00 | £3,512.03 |
07/11/2012 | -£40.00 | £3,472.03 |
08/11/2012 | £0.00 | £3,472.03 |
09/11/2012 | £0.00 | £3,472.03 |
10/11/2012 | £273.00 | £3,745.03 |
WINNING RACING SYSTEM
£2350 BANK
FAV'S @ £20 pints x £50
NH @ 50 points x £15
2 yo @ £60 points
Paul's sister service (however, they have little to nothing in common).
I remain hopeful based on past results.
05/11/2012 | £105.00 | £2,118.30 |
06/11/2012 | -£15.00 | £2,103.30 |
07/11/2012 | -£86.03 | £2,017.27 |
08/11/2012 | -£80.00 | £1,937.27 |
09/11/2012 | -£130.00 | £1,807.27 |
10/11/2012 | -£70.00 | £1,737.27 |
11/11/2012 | -£115.00 | £1,622.27 |
If, and this is the same for any service my bank hits 50% for that service I will 1/2 the stakes until the bank doubles back to the original.
One system wiped out the other.
CD SYSTEMS PROBET
1500 BANK
£75 STAKES
05/11/2012 | £93.75 | £1,672.73 |
06/11/2012 | -£75.00 | £1,597.73 |
07/11/2012 | -£75.00 | £1,522.73 |
08/11/2012 | -£75.00 | £1,447.73 |
09/11/2012 | -£75.00 | £1,372.73 |
10/11/2012 | -£75.00 | £1,297.73 |
11/11/2012 | -£75.00 | £1,222.73 |
I have far longer exposure on this system. Please look at the website for the bigger results picture. It's as good as it gets. Weekly reporting can distort*.
*I'll also do a monthly report on the bog
CD SYSTEMS FREE SERVICES
FOOTBALL £1200 BANK
£100 BACK BETS
-£50.00 | £1,164.62 |
£32.06 | £1,196.68 |
£50.00 | £1,246.68 |
£75.00 | £1,321.68 |
£70.00 | £1,391.68 |
£50.00 | £1,441.68 |
-£100.00 | £1,341.68 |
NH £375 BANK
£15 STAKES
£0.00 | £375.00 |
£16.50 | £391.50 |
-£15.00 | £376.50 |
-£15.00 | £361.50 |
-£15.00 | £346.50 |
-£15.00 | £331.50 |
£50.00 | £381.50 |
STABLE INSIDER
£750 BANK & £30 STAKES
£0.00 | £750.00 |
£82.50 | £832.50 |
£165.00 | £997.50 |
-£30.00 | £967.50 |
-£30.00 | £937.50 |
£172.50 | £1,110.00 |
£0.00 | £1,110.00 |
CD SYSTEMS BARGAIN
This is another of my favorite services
£1500 BANK, £30 STAKES
05/11/2012 | -£30.00 | £970.00 |
06/11/2012 | £135.00 | £1,105.00 |
07/11/2012 | -£30.00 | £1,075.00 |
08/11/2012 | -£30.00 | £1,045.00 |
09/11/2012 | -£30.00 | £1,015.00 |
10/11/2012 | £420.00 | £1,435.00 |
11/11/2012 | -£30.00 | £1,405.00 |
ZERO HYPE BANKER
£1000 BANK
£50 WIN BACK BETS
05/11/2012 | -£50.00 | £951.66 |
06/11/2012 | -£100.00 | £851.66 |
07/11/2012 | -£50.00 | £801.66 |
08/11/2012 | £0.00 | £801.66 |
09/11/2012 | £0.00 | £801.66 |
10/11/2012 | -£100.00 | £701.66 |
It's a long term system but this week, like the one's you can see above added to the pain:-(
ON THE OCHE
£5000 bank
stakes as recommended.
05/11/2012 | £0.00 | £5,321.10 |
06/11/2012 | £0.00 | £5,321.10 |
07/11/2012 | £0.00 | £5,321.10 |
08/11/2012 | £0.00 | £5,321.10 |
09/11/2012 | £0.00 | £5,321.10 |
10/11/2012 | -£24.34 | £5,296.76 |
11/11/2012 | -£155.20 | £5,141.56 |
I am finding the service as of late frustrating, but it is in profit!! Long term results are very good. Funny, I also think it's great when the value approach goes our way:-)
SUMMER OF FOOTBALL
£3000 BANK
£150 STAKES
SOF after what can only be described as a fantastic run is struggling at the moment (last week really hurt, this week just hurts). For some reason I do not worry about this service. I do think it will pull back.
05/11/2012 | £137.61 | £2,367.64 |
06/11/2012 | £0.00 | £2,367.64 |
07/11/2012 | £0.00 | £2,367.64 |
08/11/2012 | £0.00 | £2,367.64 |
09/11/2012 | £37.50 | £2,405.14 |
10/11/2012 | -£308.50 | £2,096.64 |
11/11/2012 | -£45.21 | £2,051.43 |
IBETVALUE
£5000 BANK
5% OF BAL LIABILITY
Not good, this is three losing bets on a lay service on the bounce.
BUT to put it into context, follows 29 winning ones! Just wasn't a member then:-(
05/11/2012 | £0.00 | £4,741.79 |
06/11/2012 | £0.00 | £4,741.79 |
07/11/2012 | £0.00 | £4,741.79 |
08/11/2012 | £0.00 | £4,741.79 |
09/11/2012 | £0.00 | £4,741.79 |
10/11/2012 | -£234.00 | £4,507.79 |
11/11/2012 | -£222.60 | £4,285.19 |
AHC TIPSTER
£5000 BANK
STAKES AS ADVISED (% OF FIXED BANK)
The Football curse continues
05/11/2012 | £0.00 | £4,905.96 |
06/11/2012 | £40.00 | £4,945.96 |
07/11/2012 | £0.00 | £4,945.96 |
08/11/2012 | £0.00 | £4,945.96 |
09/11/2012 | £30.50 | £4,976.46 |
10/11/2012 | -£251.00 | £4,725.46 |
11/11/2012 | -£253.75 | £4,471.71 |
at on average £50 a bet you can see the strike rate!
The service is not cheap at £80 a month but once you join you do not pay another subscription util you are £300 in -profit (based on a £10k bank). However, over on Sports Tipster you can see that this service has a long term good return.
SCOTTISH FOOTBALL BETS
£3500 BANK, £100 POINT
stakes as advised.
Football curse continues
05/11/2012 | £0.00 | £3,707.02 |
06/11/2012 | £0.00 | £3,707.02 |
07/11/2012 | -£100.00 | £3,607.02 |
08/11/2012 | £0.00 | £3,607.02 |
09/11/2012 | £0.00 | £3,607.02 |
10/11/2012 | -£100.00 | £3,507.02 |
PROBANDIT
£1500 BANK
£10 POINT
05/11/2012 | £0.00 | £1,818.06 |
06/11/2012 | -£61.60 | £1,756.46 |
07/11/2012 | -£1.50 | £1,754.96 |
08/11/2012 | £148.00 | £1,902.96 |
09/11/2012 | -£41.56 | £1,861.40 |
Now, I was tempted not to include this one (and the last one)
POLISH BETS
Bets from the SBC forum
This lad is either very very good, or it is beginners luck:-)
£1250 BANK,
£50 bets
05/11/2012 | £0.00 | £1,521.07 |
06/11/2012 | £0.00 | £1,521.07 |
07/11/2012 | £0.00 | £1,521.07 |
08/11/2012 | £0.00 | £1,521.07 |
09/11/2012 | £137.00 | £1,658.07 |
10/11/2012 | £177.00 | £1,835.07 |
11/11/2012 | -£50.00 | £1,785.07 |
My bank and returns
Overall, for the week.
A net loss of £1645
£590 -profit for 49 days betting.
I can mange until the end of the year but I do need to see a good recovery if I am to make a living from it.
Comments
Not really a true reflection with the addition of Proball Betting Club in the last week
let us see what the rest of the month brings.
Hopefully this is a low point and it can only get better.
When times are hard
This weekend has been horrendous. On Friday night I was feeling the mental strain of a losing run and by yesterday afternoon I honestly felt as low as I can ever imagine. Why?
I need this to work, it is now my sole income.
Even though I have not eaten into my bank but only used up profits it hurts far more than when it was just a secondary income.
There's nothing out of the ordinary with this draw down. Everything is within normal deviation, I was just woefully mentally unprepared.
Anyway, I move on.
CD Systems
Can I make one recommendation that people look at
http://www.cdsystems.uk.com/index.htm
It's web page on CD Systems website that covers sequences. For me anyway, it helps to rationalise things.
To read requires a free registation. There's lots of other sound advise to be found on the site.
Also, remember, sequences work both ways i.e. winning and losing.
Anyway, on to my weeks performance....
I need this to work, it is now my sole income.
Even though I have not eaten into my bank but only used up profits it hurts far more than when it was just a secondary income.
There's nothing out of the ordinary with this draw down. Everything is within normal deviation, I was just woefully mentally unprepared.
Anyway, I move on.
CD Systems
Can I make one recommendation that people look at
http://www.cdsystems.uk.com/index.htm
It's web page on CD Systems website that covers sequences. For me anyway, it helps to rationalise things.
To read requires a free registation. There's lots of other sound advise to be found on the site.
Also, remember, sequences work both ways i.e. winning and losing.
Anyway, on to my weeks performance....
Friday, 9 November 2012
Next up-date on Monday
It did not take long to realise that a daily blog... well, probably spreading it a bit thin.
I will have the full blog (major bit of writing) + graphs (Rowan).
It will be exciting.
A bit like financial Dallas.
Also, I have found that 3 of my major tipsters have trades that float for a few days and knacker my daily up-dates so once a week (Monday's) will be better reporting accuracy.
Also, on Monday i will explain why I started and dropped a tipster in a week. I think people who do this are stupid, i.e,. starting a tipster takes a lot of research, so why would you drop it after a week?
I will have the full blog (major bit of writing) + graphs (Rowan).
It will be exciting.
A bit like financial Dallas.
Also, I have found that 3 of my major tipsters have trades that float for a few days and knacker my daily up-dates so once a week (Monday's) will be better reporting accuracy.
Also, on Monday i will explain why I started and dropped a tipster in a week. I think people who do this are stupid, i.e,. starting a tipster takes a lot of research, so why would you drop it after a week?
Thursday, 8 November 2012
Wednesday, 7 November 2012
Wed 7th, results and musings
I'm out tomorrow morning so I am totting up the results tonight.
I do not like doing this (daytime totting up:-)), why?
Checking the results and adding the winnings/ losses is an emotional drain when extended throughout a day instead of one batch.
If I win, I want to hold on to the winnings or extend.
If I am down I am watching every race/game to see if i have recovered or worsened the position.
It is a new blog, so I will ride it out today. When I am rich and famous my readers will have to wait:-)
And off we go.
Favorite Lays, a worthy start for the blog, why, because after a proven track record, I join and after 8 days I am 14pts down. However, I have a cup of tea, plug my brain in and it's just a losing sequence. The average will reassert itself. Discipline & order is called for. Today -3.5 pts. I wish I was a Vulcan. Spock, do you hear me?
Probandit/ Hybrid, Call it flat. Unlucky.
CD Bargain, -1 pt
CD Probet - 1 pt
ZH Banker - 1pt.
50/50 +0.176 pts.
WRS -1.6 pts. Fav's not running to plan
WRT -0.4 pts.
CD Footy +1 pt
Scottish Football Bets - 1pt
Overall, down £322 for the day.
I wish I had gone on holiday on Friday to somewhere without Wi Fi.
I do not like doing this (daytime totting up:-)), why?
Checking the results and adding the winnings/ losses is an emotional drain when extended throughout a day instead of one batch.
If I win, I want to hold on to the winnings or extend.
If I am down I am watching every race/game to see if i have recovered or worsened the position.
It is a new blog, so I will ride it out today. When I am rich and famous my readers will have to wait:-)
And off we go.
Favorite Lays, a worthy start for the blog, why, because after a proven track record, I join and after 8 days I am 14pts down. However, I have a cup of tea, plug my brain in and it's just a losing sequence. The average will reassert itself. Discipline & order is called for. Today -3.5 pts. I wish I was a Vulcan. Spock, do you hear me?
Probandit/ Hybrid, Call it flat. Unlucky.
CD Bargain, -1 pt
CD Probet - 1 pt
ZH Banker - 1pt.
50/50 +0.176 pts.
WRS -1.6 pts. Fav's not running to plan
WRT -0.4 pts.
CD Footy +1 pt
Scottish Football Bets - 1pt
Overall, down £322 for the day.
I wish I had gone on holiday on Friday to somewhere without Wi Fi.
Emotions & Yesterday's results
Although I have kept records for a few months, they have been recorded in what I call a 'jotter pad', everything is there, just not that easy to analyse.
From the 24/09 I have recorded everything. Initially in the 'jotter pad', but the morning after I up-date a detailed spreadsheet.
For some reason I had come to the conclusion that earnings would be smooth.....
From the 24/09 I have recorded everything. Initially in the 'jotter pad', but the morning after I up-date a detailed spreadsheet.
For some reason I had come to the conclusion that earnings would be smooth.....
- Week 1 +£1605 I did a little dance that Sunday. I multiplied this by 4 and estimated a steady £6k a month, easy.....
- Week 2 +£33
- Week 3 +52
- Week 4 -£192
- Week 5 + £1227
- Week 6 - £551 and that was after being £1000 up on the Friday. -£1600 on the Saturday and Sunday.
I followed the tipsters exactly the same each day. Not exactly a smooth ride.
I cope (just) by looking at the long term results and if I dig deep I know that I will have great months and poor months but overall, if the past is at least some guide to the future I should make money over a longer period.
I am also relieved that after 6 weeks that I am £2175 in profit and not an overall loss. That is less fees of nearly £600. I cannot live off that return, but I do hope that the average earning per month will increase and I know over time I can get the subscription costs down by speaking to the vendors and negotiations a long term package.
What I will say is that I did hit a new profit high of £3800 before I received the big punch on the nose over the weekend. The data within the sheet is too limited for now to draw any conclusion but over time I hope to make decisions based on the information recorded. It's data in the real world, to the best of my ability.
Anyway, to move on to the results;
CD Probet -1 pt
CD Bargain +9 pts (a win was due:-)
Sportyy -2 pt
Tennis Desire + 0.17 pts (this would have been a negative but the last tip duplicated the Sportty selection so I did not place it).
CD Football + 0.64 pts
ZH Banker -2pts
50/50 service +0.77 pt.
WRS - 1pt (NH)
Proball Tennis -1 pt
Proball DC +0.5 pt
Proball LTD I did not place the bet as the odds were near to 10, way to high for me on a LTD
Proball Horses (lay) + 0.23 pt
Probandit Hybrid, -6.16 pts
AHC +0.8 pt
Fav Lays -2.87 pts
Overall loss for the day -£106.65
Tuesday, 6 November 2012
Results write up Tuesday 06/11/12
Well, I am knackered. 3 month old up at 3am, watching fishing and car makeover programs until 8 am and can wake the wife without feeling guilty (she had been up most of the night).
Summer of Football, +0.92 pt a well deserved win yesterday. SOF even with the recent very manageable draw down remains in my top 3 services. In fact, if I had not been a member I would join now. Human nature being what it is, I imagine a few members have bailed out so that is good for the steadfast members to gain stable odds for longer after the tips are released.
Zero Hype Banker. 1 pt loss. Just seem to be treading water at the moment. Probably an achievement in itself with the changeover from flat to NH.
CD Systems Bargain. 1 pt loss. You will get longer losing streaks with this service, but with good bank management this only just misses out on my top 3.
CD Probet. +1.875 points. Top 3 service. Steve just seems to consistently deliver.
CD Footy. - 1 point. I have only just started following this each day.
WRS. Fav's + 1.25 pts, NH + 2.5 pts.
WRT. - 0.4 points. A bread and butter service (I do love it). Just misses out on a top 3. I'd go as far as to say this is 3.1 position.
WRS is a new release and historically looks to have great potential. To date it had a dip and looks to be recovering, as of now I remain confident that this will deliver the goods.
SPORTYY, + 2 points. In short since 24/09 my bank was up 40%. I am not saying this will go on forever and Sportyy has had losing sequences like every one else (16 in July), but this service for me is No. 1 and a long term keeper.
Probandit. Call it break even. This is a fairly new service for me, but delivered will in October and you may laugh I am working on 30 points a month as an average:-) No doubt I'll need to replace my top 3 with a top 5!
As always please drop me a comment if you have any questions.
Summer of Football, +0.92 pt a well deserved win yesterday. SOF even with the recent very manageable draw down remains in my top 3 services. In fact, if I had not been a member I would join now. Human nature being what it is, I imagine a few members have bailed out so that is good for the steadfast members to gain stable odds for longer after the tips are released.
Zero Hype Banker. 1 pt loss. Just seem to be treading water at the moment. Probably an achievement in itself with the changeover from flat to NH.
CD Systems Bargain. 1 pt loss. You will get longer losing streaks with this service, but with good bank management this only just misses out on my top 3.
CD Probet. +1.875 points. Top 3 service. Steve just seems to consistently deliver.
CD Footy. - 1 point. I have only just started following this each day.
WRS. Fav's + 1.25 pts, NH + 2.5 pts.
WRT. - 0.4 points. A bread and butter service (I do love it). Just misses out on a top 3. I'd go as far as to say this is 3.1 position.
WRS is a new release and historically looks to have great potential. To date it had a dip and looks to be recovering, as of now I remain confident that this will deliver the goods.
SPORTYY, + 2 points. In short since 24/09 my bank was up 40%. I am not saying this will go on forever and Sportyy has had losing sequences like every one else (16 in July), but this service for me is No. 1 and a long term keeper.
Probandit. Call it break even. This is a fairly new service for me, but delivered will in October and you may laugh I am working on 30 points a month as an average:-) No doubt I'll need to replace my top 3 with a top 5!
As always please drop me a comment if you have any questions.
Monday, 5 November 2012
As of this morning... RESULTS
On the 24/09 I started with a £10,000 bank. Not a lot for all the services covered, but I am hoping the diversification works out.
Also, before I forget, please ask any questions. I'd love this blog to develop into something that helped everyone. I am no expert, but we can all learn from my mistakes and hopefully, my successes:-)
42 days & £2173 less fees. Down from £3,788 on the Friday. This weekend was one hell of a punch in the face.
I have this in graph format, but for the love of me I cannot find out how to insert a graph in blogger?
Any suggestions please?
Also, before I forget, please ask any questions. I'd love this blog to develop into something that helped everyone. I am no expert, but we can all learn from my mistakes and hopefully, my successes:-)
Day Number | Day | date | Daily P/L | weekly subtotal | subtotal |
£0.00 | |||||
1 | Monday | 24/09/2012 | £52.25 | £52.25 | |
2 | Tuesday | 25/09/2012 | £183.10 | £235.35 | |
3 | Wednesday | 26/09/2012 | £475.66 | £711.01 | |
4 | Thursday | 27/09/2012 | £480.00 | £1,191.01 | |
5 | Friday | 28/09/2012 | £121.00 | £1,312.01 | |
6 | Saturday | 29/09/2012 | £439.60 | £1,751.61 | |
7 | Sunday | 30/09/2012 | -£145.74 | £1,605.87 | £1,605.87 |
8 | Monday | 01/10/2012 | -£195.00 | £1,410.87 | |
9 | Tuesday | 02/10/2012 | £183.76 | £1,594.63 | |
10 | Wednesday | 03/10/2012 | -£283.69 | £1,310.94 | |
11 | Thursday | 04/10/2012 | £285.38 | £1,596.32 | |
12 | Friday | 05/10/2012 | -£23.13 | £1,573.19 | |
13 | Saturday | 06/10/2012 | £115.74 | £1,688.93 | |
14 | Sunday | 07/10/2012 | -£49.95 | £33.11 | £1,638.98 |
15 | Monday | 08/10/2012 | -£209.19 | £1,429.79 | |
16 | Tuesday | 09/10/2012 | -£103.97 | £1,325.82 | |
17 | Wednesday | 10/10/2012 | -£277.50 | £1,048.32 | |
18 | Thursday | 11/10/2012 | £188.32 | £1,236.64 | |
19 | Friday | 12/10/2012 | £148.46 | £1,385.10 | |
20 | Saturday | 13/10/2012 | £200.78 | £1,585.88 | |
21 | Sunday | 14/10/2012 | £105.65 | £52.55 | £1,691.53 |
22 | Monday | 15/10/2012 | -£38.78 | £1,652.75 | |
23 | Tuesday | 16/10/2012 | -£88.75 | £1,564.00 | |
24 | Wednesday | 17/10/2012 | £5.70 | £1,569.70 | |
25 | Thursday | 18/10/2012 | -£310.10 | £1,259.60 | |
26 | Friday | 19/10/2012 | -£155.63 | £1,103.97 | |
27 | Saturday | 20/10/2012 | £507.14 | £1,611.11 | |
28 | Sunday | 21/10/2012 | -£111.78 | -£192.20 | £1,499.33 |
29 | Monday | 22/10/2012 | £393.76 | £1,893.09 | |
30 | Tuesday | 23/10/2012 | £424.84 | £2,317.93 | |
31 | Wednesday | 24/10/2012 | £357.64 | £2,675.57 | |
32 | Thursday | 25/10/2012 | £55.67 | £2,731.24 | |
33 | Friday | 26/10/2012 | £456.32 | £3,187.56 | |
34 | Saturday | 27/10/2012 | -£793.56 | £2,394.00 | |
35 | Sunday | 28/10/2012 | £333.26 | £1,227.93 | £2,727.26 |
36 | Monday | 29/10/2012 | -£52.00 | £2,675.26 | |
37 | Tuesday | 30/10/2012 | £23.99 | £2,699.25 | |
38 | Wednesday | 31/10/2012 | £223.85 | £2,923.10 | |
39 | Thursday | 01/11/2012 | £335.18 | £3,258.28 | |
40 | Friday | 02/11/2012 | £530.34 | £3,788.62 | |
41 | Saturday | 03/11/2012 | -£399.53 | £3,389.09 | |
42 | Sunday | 04/11/2012 | -£1,215.11 | -£553.28 | £2,173.98 |
42 days & £2173 less fees. Down from £3,788 on the Friday. This weekend was one hell of a punch in the face.
I have this in graph format, but for the love of me I cannot find out how to insert a graph in blogger?
Any suggestions please?
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